J.D. Vance and Tim Ryan clash over the ‘great substitute’ theory in final Ohio Senate debate

Tuesday’s hostile Senate race in Ohio was made worse by the addition of Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan (Republican) and Republican J.D. Vance and Ryan clashed over racist language and made personal insults.

Tensions rose to the highest point during the final debate before Nov. 8, when one moderator asked candidates about the “great substitute” theory.

This conspiracy has taken root on the fringes of the far-right. It centers around the idea that immigrants and non-white people are replacing white Americans.

According to rumors, the suspect in the deadly May supermarket shooting in Buffalo, which killed dozens of people, is believed to have embraced this theory. Vance claimed during his campaign that Democrats push liberal immigration policies to “replace” voters and win elections. This led to accusations that Vance supports the theory.

“This great substitute theory was the motivation for the shooting at Buffalo. The shooter had all these wonderful replacement theory writings that J.D. Ryan stated that Vance agreed with Ryan.

Vance, who is an Indian American husband and father to three children, was visibly furious at Ryan.

Vance stated, “Here’s exactly how it happens when the media or people like Tim Ryan accuses me of engaging in great substitution theory.” “What happens is that my children, my biracial kids, are attacked online and in person by scumbags because you’re so desperate for power that you’ll accuse the father of three beautiful, biracial baby girls of engaging in racism. It is sickening. It is possible to believe in a border but not be racist.

Vance added, “I know that Tim has been in office for twenty years and I understand it’s a nice gig. But you are so desperate to not have a job that you’ll slander both me and my family.”

Ryan responded amusedly, “I think we struck a nerve”

After a five-minute debate at Stambaugh Auditorium near Youngstown State University, the exchange ended in a civil, but punchy, discussion. This is the congressional district Ryan represents for almost two decades.

Recent polls indicate a close Senate race with Vance and Ryan leading by a narrow margin. Many people were surprised by the close race just three weeks before Election Day. They saw Trump’s two wins here as a sign of Ohio becoming a reliably Republican state.

Ryan briefly ran for the presidency in 2020. He has since moved to the center of his Senate campaign and made overtures to moderate Republicans as well as independents. Vance, a venture capitalist best known for his memoir “Hillbilly Elegy,” repeatedly attacked Ryan for being a career politician whose loyalties are with President Joe Biden or House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Vance has used this attack to promote his candidacy, promoting it with TV commercials that cost tens of millions of dollars.

Vance responded to the debate’s first question on inflation, saying that the rising energy prices that people see at a pump and that farmers see when diesel prices go up are direct results of policies implemented by Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and 100% supported by Tim Ryan.

Ryan, who challenged Pelosi once in a House leadership race for the House, retaliated by referring to Vance’s venture capital days in San Francisco, where Pelosi resides. Ryan and the democrats tried to portray Vance as an Ohio ex-pat, who became part of the coastal elite.

Ryan stated, “J.D. you keep talking about Nancy Pelosi.” “If Nancy Pelosi is your target, you should move to San Francisco to challenge Nancy Pelosi.”

Vance brought up a Ryan ad, which features Ryan’s wife opening a bottle and laughing at their differences at home.

Vance stated, “It’s an auite funny TV commercial… where he claims he only agrees 70% with his wife.” He votes for Nancy Pelosi and agrees with her 100% of the time. It must be a bit awkward for Ryan’s household.”

Vance’s political loyalties were then brought up when Bertram de Souza (longtime Youngstown journalist) mentioned how Ryan had called Vance TTrump” a—- kisser” at the previous debate. This is a paraphrase from Trump’s remarks about Vance at a recent rally.

Vance stated that Trump had “told a joke during a rally based upon a false New York Times article, and Tim Ryan decided to run his entire campaign around it,” before trying to score another Pelosi punch.

De Souza asked: “You took it as a joke?”

Vance said that Trump is “very well” known and that he didn’t take offense.

Vance stated, “Everybody took it as a joke,” before returning to Pelosi.

Short ten minutes passed before the back and forth continued. The most common words were Nancy, Pelosi, and a–.

Ryan stated, “I don’t have to hate Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.” “We must change the political discourse in this nation from hate and anger to love, compassion, forgiveness, and grace. All I am saying is that I don’t have hate for her.

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